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Explanation begins at: 3:40
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Complete Transcript

Welcome to English as a Second Language Podcast number 1,255 – Talking about Gemstones.

This is English as a Second Language Podcast episode 1,255. I’m your host, Dr. Jeff McQuillan, coming to you from the Center for Educational Development in beautiful Los Angeles, California.

[start of dialogue]

Nathan: I’m looking for a gift for my girlfriend. Can you help me pick something out?

Ellie: I’d be happy to. We have a wide selection of jewelry with precious and semiprecious gemstones. Are you interested in something new or antique?

Nathan: I’m not sure. I’m just looking for something nice, something that really reflects our relationship.

Ellie: I understand. Let me show you some of our finest pieces. This ring has a polished faceted stone that has a lot of luster. Isn’t it exquisite?

Nathan: That’s beautiful, but it’s not really what I’m looking for.

Ellie: No problem. How about this piece? It has a lovely color and cut and it’s in a gold setting.

Nathan: Gold, huh? “Golden” isn’t how I’d describe our relationship, at least not yet.

Ellie: Okay, many of our semiprecious stones are set in silver. This one is really radiant, don’t you think?

Nathan: That’s okay, but what about these stones over here?

Ellie: Those are rough uncut stones. They need a lot of work before they’re ready for sale.

Nathan: Rough and needs work? That describes our relationship to a tee. I’ll take one of those.

[end of dialogue]

We’re talking today about “gemstones” (gemstones). The easiest way to define a gemstone is to give you some examples. Examples of gemstones include diamonds, rubies, sapphires, emeralds – these are all colorful and/or shiny pieces of what are technically “mineral crystals” that you find, of course, in the ground usually. Nathan begins our dialogue by saying, “I’m looking for a gift for my girlfriend.” He’s asking Ellie, the woman who works at the jewelry store, to help him pick something out. “To pick out” something or “to pick something out” means to select something from among several options or choices.

Ellie says, “I’d be happy to,” meaning I would be happy to help you. Of course, people who work at a store should be happy to help you. They are, of course, selling something to you. Ellie says, “We have a wide selection,” meaning we have many different kinds, “of jewelry with precious and semiprecious gemstones.” There are two kinds of gemstones. “Precious” (precious) are the more expensive ones. Those are things like the examples I just gave you – diamonds and rubies and sapphires.

The less expensive ones – the cheaper ones, the ones I buy – are called “semiprecious” (semiprecious). “Semiprecious” means that they are not as expensive. They’re often made from other kinds of rock or what are called “organic materials.” The difference is mostly commercial, I think, more than it is geological. In any case, a “semiprecious gemstone” would be something such as jade, jasper, agate, amethyst – those sorts of stones are considered semiprecious. Topaz and turquoise would be another couple of examples. Ellie is saying that they have both precious and semiprecious gemstones.

She asks, “Are you interested in something new or antique?” “Antique” (antique) is sometimes defined as an object that is at least 100 years old, though it is often used simply to mean very old, with no specific reference to how old it is. Nathan says, “I’m not sure. I’m just looking for something nice, something that really reflects our relationship.” “To reflect” means to represent or perhaps to symbolize. Ellie says, “I understand. Let me show you some of our finest pieces.” Now, the word “finest” here means highest quality – best and probably most expensive.

She says, “This ring has a polished faceted stone that has a lot of luster.” “Polished” (polished) refers to something having been rubbed with a cloth or some piece of material so that it is shiny, so that you can sometimes even see your reflection on it. If you have an old piece of silver that has been sitting in your drawer for many years, it will probably need to be polished. You’ll need to do something so that it looks shiny again, so that it looks bright again.

“Faceted” (faceted) refers to something having many sides, or many aspects, if we’re using it more metaphorically. Here it refers to an actual stone that has many different sides to it. “Luster” (luster) refers to the shine of light that is reflected by something. It’s an adjective usually used to talk about jewelry or things like silver. Don’t confuse “luster” with “lust” (lust). “Lust” is sexual desire. We’re not talking about that here. We’re talking about something very different.

Ellie says, “Isn’t it exquisite (exquisite)?” “Exquisite” is an adjective used to describe something that is very beautiful, that is very, we might say, “refined” or “elegant.” We might describe a beautiful diamond as being “exquisite.” It means it’s very, very beautiful. Nathan says, “That’s beautiful, but it’s not really what I’m looking for.” Ellie says, “No problem” – okay, in other words. “How about this piece?” She shows him another piece of jewelry. “It has a lovely color and cut and it’s in a gold setting.” A “cut” (cut) refers to the way that a stone or a crystal is cut by a jeweler, a person who works with stones and jewels.

Diamonds in particular have different cuts, and the different cuts make the diamond look different. The light is reflected differently depending on the cut of the diamond. If you’ve ever bought a ring for your wife or girlfriend, you know what I’m talking about. Ellie mentions this particular stone is in a “gold setting.” “Gold” (gold) is a kind of metal. It’s often referred to as a “precious metal,” just like “precious stone.” A precious metal is a more expensive, a rarer, metal.

A “setting” (setting) refers to where the stone is placed in the piece of jewelry. For example, you could have the diamond in a ring, or you could have it on something you would wear around your neck called a “pendant.” Those are different “settings.” This is in a “gold setting,” meaning the metal of the ring or the pendant is gold. Nathan says, “Gold, huh?” He’s a little surprised, or perhaps confused.

He then says something sort of odd. He says, “‘Golden’ isn’t how I’d describe our relationship, at least not yet.” “Golden” (golden) is the adjective related to gold. Here it means very nice or even perhaps perfect. We talk about California being the “Golden State” because it is where gold was discovered many years ago. “Golden” more generally can refer to something that is ideal or something that is valuable.

Nathan says his relationship with his girlfriend isn’t yet golden, meaning perhaps he doesn’t want to spend that much money on her yet. Ellie says, “Okay, many of our semiprecious stones are set in silver” (silver). Silver is a white metal – chemical element Ag for those of you who are chemists. Silver is expensive, but less expensive than gold. It’s cheaper than gold, usually.

Ellie says, “This one,” showing him another piece of jewelry, “This one is really radiant, don’t you think?” “Radiant” (radiant) refers to something that seems to be producing light. Of course, a stone doesn’t actually produce light. It doesn’t “emit” light, we would say. It “reflects” light. But something that is very shiny might be described as something that is “radiant.” We might describe a beautiful woman as being “radiant,” meaning she’s so beautiful, it’s almost as though light were coming out of her.

Nathan doesn’t seem to like what Ellie is showing him. He says, “That’s okay, but what about these stones over here?” He’s pointing to some other part of the store. Ellie says, “Those are rough uncut stones.” “Uncut” means the jeweler, the person who works with the stones, hasn’t done anything to them yet, hasn’t cut them so that they look nice. The word “rough” (rough) also refers to something as it is when it was found in the ground.

“Rough” might also be the opposite of “polished.” Something that is rough is something that is not very refined. “Rough” is also sometimes used as the opposite of “smooth” (smooth). A “smooth road” or a “smooth street” is one you can drive down without feeling any bumps. The opposite of that would be “rough,” where your car would go up and down because there are holes in the street. We’re talking about “rough uncut stones,” or rocks.

Ellie says the rough uncut stones “need a lot of work before they’re ready for sale.” In other words, they’re not quite ready yet to be sold. Nathan says, “Rough and needs work? That describes our relationship to a tee. I’ll take one of those.” Remember, Nathan was looking for a stone or a gemstone that reflected his and his girlfriend’s relationship, and apparently it needs work. That’s why he says that the rough uncut stones describe their relationship “to a tee” (tee).

“To a tee” is an expression that means perfectly, exactly, precisely. There’s some discussion about whether it should just be the letter “T.” I think you would see it most often spelled out: (tee). No one is quite sure why we say “to a tee,” but everyone understands it means exactly or precisely or perfectly. We often use the expression in referring to a piece of clothing – “It fits me to a tee,” meaning it fits me perfectly. It’s the exact size for me.

Now let’s listen to the dialogue, this time at a normal speed.

[start of dialogue]

Nathan: I’m looking for a gift for my girlfriend. Can you help me pick something out?

Ellie: I’d be happy to. We have a wide selection of jewelry with precious and semiprecious gemstones. Are you interested in something new or antique?

Nathan: I’m not sure. I’m just looking for something nice, something that really reflects our relationship.

Ellie: I understand. Let me show you some of our finest pieces. This ring has a polished faceted stone that has a lot of luster. Isn’t it exquisite?

Nathan: That’s beautiful, but it’s not really what I’m looking for.

Ellie: No problem. How about this piece? It has a lovely color and cut and it’s in a gold setting.

Nathan: Gold, huh? “Golden” isn’t how I’d describe our relationship, at least not yet.

Ellie: Okay, many of our semiprecious stones are set in silver. This one is really radiant, don’t you think?

Nathan: That’s okay, but what about these stones over here?

Ellie: Those are rough uncut stones. They need a lot of work before they’re ready for sale.

Nathan: Rough and needs work? That describes our relationship to a tee. I’ll take one of those.

[end of dialogue]

We have a precious gemstone of a writer in our very own Dr. Lucy Tse. Her dialogues are polished. They’re exquisite. They have luster like no one else’s. Thank you, Dr. Tse.

From Los Angeles, California, I’m Jeff McQuillan, much less radiant – pretty rough, if I’m being honest – but come back and listen to us anyway right here on ESL Podcast.

English as a Second Language Podcast was written and produced by Dr. Lucy Tse, hosted by Dr. Jeff McQuillan. Copyright 2016 by the Center for Educational Development.


Glossary

precious gemstone – a colorful and/or shiny piece of mineral crystal, specifically diamonds, rubies, sapphires, and emeralds, that has been cut and polished (rubbed to make something smooth and/or shine), typically for use in jewelry

* The queen’s crown has diamonds, rubies, and other precious gemstones.

semiprecious gemstone – a colorful and/or shiny piece of rock or organic materials that has been cut and polished (rubbed to make something smooth and/or shine), typically for use in jewelry

* Most semiprecious gemstones are rocks, but pearls come from oysters and amber comes from trees.

antique – very old, and perhaps having a lot of value due to its age

* It would look strange to put modern furniture in such an old home. Let’s go buy some antique tables instead.

polished – rubbed with a soft cloth until something is shiny and smooth

* We didn’t realize how beautiful those rocks could be until he saw them polished and hanging from gold chains.

faceted – having many flat sides

* A faceted diamond reflects more light than an uncut diamond.

luster – glow; the shine of light that is reflected by something

* Kivah was stunned by the beautiful luster of the moon on the snow.

exquisite – very fine, elegant, refined, and beautiful

* The pianist’s interpretation of that Beethoven sonata was exquisite and beautiful.

cut – the design or way in which the shape of the edges of something have been changed with a sharp knife or similar tool

* Almost three-quarters of all diamonds sold have a round cut, but the princess cut is also very popular.

gold – the chemical element Au; a metal with a yellowish, slightly red color that can be shaped easily, often used in jewelry

* Does your girlfriend prefer gold or platinum jewelry?

setting – the metal that a gemstone is placed into, especially in a ring or necklace

* How do jewelers make sure the gemstone doesn’t fall out of the setting?

golden – very nice, pleasant, and good; perfect

* That job was golden! I’d never been happier at work.

silver – the chemical element Ag; a metal with a shiny grey color, often used in jewelry

* For their wedding, the bride’s grandmother gave the couple a set of silver candlesticks.

radiant – beautiful and producing or sending out a lot of light, or seeming to do so

* People often say that women are radiant during their pregnancy.

rough – not polished or refined; as something is found in nature, without having been changed

* Here are my rough notes from our meeting. I’ll type them up into a report by the end of the day.

uncut – not yet cut into a smaller size or a different shape than something found in nature, without having been changed

* It’s amazing to think that the Incas started with uncut rocks and were able to build these beautiful walls and temples.

to a tee – perfectly; exactly; precisely

* Jenna’s painting captures the landscape to a tee.


Comprehension Questions

1. Which of these could be used for a setting?
a) A precious gemstone
b) A semiprecious gemstone
c) Silver
2. What does Ellie mean when she says, “It has a lovely color and cut”?
a) The stone is beautiful and inexpensive.
b) The stone looks nice and has a good shape.
c) The stone is pretty, but has very sharp edges.

Answers at bottom.


What Else Does It Mean?

polished

The word “polished,” in this podcast, means to be rubbed until something is shiny and smooth: “The stone handrails leading up to the monument have been polished by the hands of millions of visitors.” When talking about shoes, “polished” means clean and rubbed with a cream that is the same color as the leather: “It’s a good idea to wear polished shoes whenever you have a job interview.” A person who is “polished” is confident and polite and has good manners: “Wendy is always so polished. No matter what happens, she seems to be in control of her reactions to any situation.” Finally, when talking about a performance, “polished” means that something has been practiced many times and is perfect: “The new vice-president delivered a polished presentation to the other executives.”

to a tee

In this podcast, the phrase “to a tee” means perfectly, exactly, or precisely: “Wow, that fortune teller described my personality to a tee!” When talking about golf, a “tee” is a small wooden or plastic object that is pushed into the ground to support a ball so that it can be hit more easily: “If you use a tee, you’re less likely to hit the grass with your golf club.” A “tee time” is a reservation at a golf course, or the time when people are scheduled to begin playing golf: “Please call to request an 8:30 tee time.” When talking about children’s games, “tee ball” or “t-ball” is similar to baseball, but children hit the ball while it is held up by a large plastic tube called a “tee” or “t”: “Most first-graders don’t have the skills to hit a moving ball, so it’s better to put them on a tee ball team.”


Culture Note

The Gemological Institute of America

The Gemological Institute of America is a nonprofit organization that conducts research and provides education about gemstones. Founded in 1931 and “headquartered in” (with the main offices in a particular location) California, the Gemological Institute of America is best known for creating the “standards” (rules and criteria) by which diamonds are “judged” (evaluated for quality and value), specifically the International Diamond Grading System and the Four C’s: cut, “clarity” (how easily one can see through the diamond), color, and “carat” (weight). The Institute analyzes and evaluates gemstones to help and “protect” (prevent damage or harm to) buyers and sellers.

The organization was founded by a man named Robert M. Shipley, who worked as a “jeweler” (a person who buys, sells, and/or makes jewelry) but didn’t have very much knowledge about gemstones. He took courses in “gemology” (the study of gemstones) and tried to share his knowledge with others and develop the “professionalism” (a measure of how educated, experienced, and trustworthy people are) of people involved in the gemstone and jewelry “industries” (businesses).

Since then, the Institute has developed many technologies and tools to help jewelers “detect” (identify and find) jewels that have been “manipulated” (changed) chemically to appear to be more valuable than they actually are. For example, the Institute found a way to determine which diamonds have been exposed to high pressure and temperatures to remove their color.

Now the institute offers courses online and on 12 “campuses” (places with many educational buildings) internationally. It offers degrees to “aspiring” (wanting to have or be something) gemologists and jewelers.


Comprehension Answers

1 - c

2 - b