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Complete Transcript

Welcome to English as a Second Language Podcast number 1,238 – Making Accusations.

This is English as a Second Language Podcast episode 1,238. I’m your host, Dr. Jeff McQuillan, coming to you from the Center for Educational Development in beautiful Los Angeles, California.

This episode is a dialogue between Pierre and Marie about saying another person did something wrong. Let’s get started.

[start of dialogue]

Pierre: What happened here?!

Marie: It looks like somebody trashed your experiment.

Pierre: It’s ruined, completely ruined.

Marie: Who could have done this? Why are you looking at me like that?

Pierre: Very few people have access to this lab and even fewer know which of these experiments is mine. Whoever did this knew how to do maximum damage.

Marie: And you’re accusing me? I helped you with that experiment. I’d sooner ruin my own work than intentionally damage someone else’s, much less yours. What would be my motive?

Pierre: Maybe you gave me a little too much help and now my work is outshining yours.

Marie: Your suspicions are completely unfounded. I’ve never been jealous of any attention you’ve received. You’re totally off base.

Pierre: Maybe you’re right. I’m sorry. I just can’t believe what’s happened.

Marie: I’d be upset, too, but let’s not do any more finger-pointing. We need more information before we accuse or exonerate anyone. Let’s try to stay calm.

Pierre: Yes, of course, you’re right. Hey, what happened to your workspace? It looks like it’s been tampered with.

Marie: What?! I’ll kill whoever did this! I’ll kill them!

[end of dialogue]

Pierre begins our dialogue by asking Marie, “What happened here?” Marie says, “It looks like somebody trashed your experiment.” “To trash” (trash) means to damage or ruin or perhaps even destroy something. The word “trash” as a noun means garbage or junk, but here as a verb it means to damage or physically harm something. It’s an informal verb used in this way. If a newspaper is describing a rock and roll band that damages the hotel room where they’re staying, they might use this verb. “The members of the band trashed the hotel room.” In this case, someone trashed Pierre’s experiment. An “experiment” is a scientific process used to test some hypothesis or theory.

Pierre says about his trashed experiment, “It’s ruined.” “To ruin” (ruin) means to destroy, to damage something so much that you can no longer use it or it no longer has any value. We use this verb quite often in English both to talk about physical objects as well as chances or opportunities for the future. You could ruin something you’re cooking by putting too much salt in it, or you could ruin your chances to get a job by going to an interview in a bikini, especially if you’re a man. “To ruin your chances” means that you have done something to hurt or harm your chances – the possibility of you getting a job at that company.

Pierre’s experiment has been “completely ruined,” he says. Marie says, “Who could have done this? Why are you looking at me like that?” We can imagine that Pierre is looking at Marie, thinking that it was Marie who trashed his experiment. Pierre replies, “Very few people have access to this lab.” “To have access” (access) means to be able to go into a certain place. A “lab” (lab) is a “laboratory,” a place where scientists work and do their experiments.

Pierre says, “Very few people have access to this lab and even fewer know which of these experiments is mine. Whoever did this knew how to do maximum damage.” “Maximum” (maximum) means the highest or greatest amount of something. The opposite of “maximum” is “minimum.” Pierre is saying that whoever damaged his experiment knew how to do the maximum damage.

Marie then asks Pierre, “Are you accusing me?” “To accuse” (accuse) is to say that someone has done something wrong or perhaps has broken the law. The noun “accusation” comes from the verb “to accuse.” So, Marie is asking Pierre if Pierre is saying that Marie did the damage – if he is accusing her. Marie says, “I helped you with that experiment. I’d sooner ruin my own work than intentionally damage someone else’s.” That expression, “I’d” (I’d) – standing for “I would” – “sooner” (sooner) is another way of saying “I would rather do this than that.”

So in this case, Marie says, “I’d sooner ruin my own work than intentionally damage someone else’s.” In other words, she would rather ruin her own work than hurt or damage someone else’s work. She uses the adverb “intentionally” (intentionally). “Intentionally” means “on purpose” – something you want to do and are trying to do. “I intentionally hit my younger brother when I was a child.” I did it on purpose. I wanted to do it. The opposite of “intentionally” would be “accidentally.” If you “accidentally” do something, you didn’t want to do it but you did it anyway.

Going back then to this expression “I’d sooner do X than Y,” it’s used to show just how much you did not want to do something or would not want to do something. Marie is saying that she is innocent. She didn’t do anything wrong. In fact, she would prefer to damage or ruin her own work rather than damage Pierre’s work. That’s why she ends the sentence by saying “much less yours.” That phrase “much less” means that something is even less likely or less acceptable than something already mentioned.

Marie then asks, “What would be my motive?” A “motive” (motive) is your reason or purpose for doing something. It could be a good thing or it could be a bad thing. We often use this word “motive” when we’re talking about the reason why a criminal does something bad, does something wrong. Pierre says, “Maybe you gave me a little too much help and now my work is outshining yours.” Pierre is explaining what he thinks Marie’s possible motive was for ruining his experiment. It is that Marie helped Pierre so much that now his work is “outshining” (outshining) her work. “To outshine” means to do better than another person, to be superior to what someone else has done.

Marie says, “Your suspicions are completely unfounded.” “Suspicions” (suspicions) is a belief that something is true or might be true, even though you don’t have very much evidence or proof of that. Marie is saying that Pierre’s suspicions, his beliefs about her, are “completely unfounded” (unfounded). Something that is “unfounded” has no evidence or support or facts to show that it is true. Marie says, “I’ve never been jealous of any attention you’ve received. You’re totally off base.” “To be jealous” (jealous) is to have a strong feeling of wanting something that another person has or to be like what another person is.

Marie says she is not jealous of the attention or the publicity that Pierre has received. She says he is totally “off base” (base). “To be off base” means to be completely wrong, without any logic or reason. Pierre says, “Maybe you’re right. I’m sorry. I just can’t believe what’s happened.” Then Marie says, “I’d be upset too,” meaning “If this happened to me, I would also be mad.” She continues, “But let’s not do any more finger-pointing.” The term “finger-pointing” means the same as blaming. “To blame” someone is to say that someone else is responsible for a bad situation or something bad that happened.

Marie says, “We need more information before we accuse or exonerate anyone. Let’s try to stay calm.” “To exonerate” (exonerate) means to prove that someone didn’t do anything wrong, to prove that someone is innocent. “To accuse,” then, is to say someone did something wrong. “To exonerate” is to prove that the person did not do anything wrong. Pierre agrees that they need to get more information. Then, however, he looks over at Marie’s workspace, the place where she’s working. He says, “It looks like it’s been tampered with.” “To tamper (tamper) with” something is to interfere with something, to do something that would cause damage to a process or an object.

In other words, Pierre notices that someone appears to have ruined Marie’s work as well. Now remember, Marie just said that everyone should stay calm, should not get too excited, but when she finds out that her work has also been ruined, she then of course gets very angry. She says, “What?! I’ll kill whoever did this! I’ll kill them!” She, of course, now is very angry, promising to kill whoever trashed her experiment.

Now let’s listen to the dialogue, this time at a normal speed.

[start of dialogue]

Pierre: What happened here?!

Marie: It looks like somebody trashed your experiment.

Pierre: It’s ruined, completely ruined.

Marie: Who could have done this? Why are you looking at me like that?

Pierre: Very few people have access to this lab and even fewer know which of these experiments is mine. Whoever did this knew how to do maximum damage.

Marie: And you’re accusing me? I helped you with that experiment. I’d sooner ruin my own work than intentionally damage someone else’s, much less yours. What would be my motive?

Pierre: Maybe you gave me a little too much help and now my work is outshining yours.

Marie: Your suspicions are completely unfounded. I’ve never been jealous of any attention you’ve received. You’re totally off base.

Pierre: Maybe you’re right. I’m sorry. I just can’t believe what’s happened.

Marie: I’d be upset, too, but let’s not do any more finger-pointing. We need more information before we accuse or exonerate anyone. Let’s try to stay calm.

Pierre: Yes, of course, you’re right. Hey, what happened to your workspace? It looks like it’s been tampered with.

Marie: What?! I’ll kill whoever did this! I’ll kill them!

[end of dialogue]

Her scripts outshine anyone else’s on the internet. I speak, of course, of our wonderful scriptwriter, Dr. Lucy Tse.

From Los Angeles, California, I’m Jeff McQuillan. Thanks for listening. Come back and listen to us again right here on ESL Podcast.

English as a Second Language Podcast was written and produced by Dr. Lucy Tse, hosted by Dr. Jeff McQuillan. Copyright 2016 by the Center for Educational Development.


Glossary

to trash – to physically harm, damage, ruin, or destroy something

* The teenagers who came to the party really trashed backyard, with garbage and bottles everywhere.

experiment – a scientific process used to test or confirm a hypothesis or theory

* The students are conducting an experiment to understand how plants respond to increasing intensity of sunlight.

to ruin – to destroy; to damage or change something so that it no longer has any value

* Don’t let the bad weather ruin your day. It’s just a little rain.

lab – laboratory; a place where scientists work and where experiments are performed

* The biologists spend most of the day working with rats in the lab.

maximum – the highest or greatest amount of something; the upper limit

* The maximum punishment for the crime is 10 years in prison.

to accuse – to state that someone has done something wrong and/or has broken the law

* Are you accusing me of stealing? I didn’t do it!

I’d sooner – I’d rather; a phrase used to show that one has a strong preference to not have or do what has been suggested

* They’re all going to the concert; but I’d sooner visit the dentist than hear that horrible band play again.

intentionally – on purpose; actively trying to do something

* We intentionally left the name tags blank so that attendees could fill them out with whatever information they wanted to share.

much less – used to indicate that something is even less likely, suitable, or acceptable than something else already mentioned

* We couldn’t afford to rent an apartment in such a nice neighborhood, much less buy a home.

motive – one’s reason, desire, or motivation for doing something; the thing that causes one to act in a certain way

* The police are less likely to catch a murderer if they can’t determine a possible motive.

to outshine – to outperform; to do something better than another person; to be superior to something else

* At the dance recital, Brett outshone all the other performers.

suspicion – a belief that something is true or might be true, even though one does not have evidence or proof of it

* I have a suspicion that someone is stealing from the store, but I haven’t found any evidence on the security cameras yet.

unfounded – without any supporting research or evidence; without a solid base or a demonstrated cause

* The conclusions are unfounded. You won’t be able to persuade anyone with these arguments unless you provide some statistics to back up your conclusions.

jealous – envious; with strong feelings of wanting to have what another person has or be more like another person, or with strong feelings of not wanting to share someone or something with another person

* Do you ever feel jealous when your wife talks to other men?

off base – without a logical basis or connection; without logic or reason; unreasonable and unjustified

* Why were our sales projections so far off base?

finger-pointing – blaming; statements that someone has done something bad or wrong, especially when there is no proof or evidence

* This finger-pointing isn’t helpful. Let’s try to find a solution instead of focusing on who caused the problem.

to exonerate – to clear someone of all blame; to state and prove that someone is innocent

* With new DNA evidence, Pete was exonerated, but he had already served five years in jail.

to tamper with – to interfere with something in a negative way to damage or otherwise change the results or functioning of something

* Who tampered with the computer settings? Now I can’t find any of the files I need.


Comprehension Questions

1. What happened to Pierre’s experiment?
a) Someone threw it in the trash.
b) Someone said bad things about it.
c) Someone destroyed it.
2. What does Marie mean when she says, “You’re totally off base”?
a) She thinks he is wrong.
b) She thinks he is being cruel and unkind.
c) She thinks he is lying to her.

Answers at bottom.


What Else Does It Mean?

to trash

The verb “to trash,” in this podcast, means to physically harm, damage, ruin, or destroy something: “We lent them our car, but they trashed it, damaging the seats and leaving food containers and garbage on the floor.” The verb “to trash” also means to say bad things about someone or something: “The newspaper published a letter to the editor that trashed our company.” The phrase “to trash talk (someone)” means to say bad things about another person: “Shelby acts like a good friend, but when you’re not around, she trash talks you.” Finally, the rude and insulting phrase “white trash” refers to poor white people with little education: “A lot of people assume that trailer parks are full of white trash, but that isn’t always the case.”

I’d sooner

In this podcast, the phrase “I’d sooner” means I’d rather and is used to show that one has a strong preference to not have or do what has been suggested: “I’d sooner work all night to get this right than admit we weren’t able to find a solution.” The phrase “the sooner the better” refers to something that one wants to have happen, preferably as early as possible: “The storm is coming, so let’s get into the shelter, the sooner the better!” The phrase “not a moment too soon” describes something that happened almost too late: “He ran through the airport and arrived at the gate not a moment too soon.” Finally, the phrase “sooner or later” is used to talk about future events when something is certain to happen, but one does not know when: “Sooner or later, they’ll realize that they’ve made a huge mistake and they’ll ask for help.


Culture Note

The Los Alamos National Laboratory

The Los Alamos National Laboratory is a U.S. “complex” (a group of buildings) in Los Alamos, New Mexico. Operated by the Department of Energy, it conducts “multidisciplinary” (involving many different academic fields or areas of study) of research, including national security, space exploration, energy, medicine, and “supercomputing” (the use of very large and extremely powerful and fast computers).

The Laboratory was established in 1943 to participate in the “Manhattan Project,” which was a “multinational” (involving many countries) attempt to “develop” (create) “nuclear weapons” (extremely damaging weapons that produce dangerous radiation) during World War II.

Before the Laboratory was created, some research and development of weapons had been done on university campuses, but the U.S. government wanted to have a “coordinated” (with careful planning and use of resources) effort, so it opened Los Alamos. Thousands of scientists, some who have won “Nobel Prizes” (awards for significant contributions to academic fields) worked there, and for many years its true “location” (where something is) was a secret.

After the “Cold War” (the long period of tension between the United States and the USSR), the scientific research at Los Alamos was “diversified” (broadened and expanded to cover many areas, not just nuclear weapons). Some of the Lab’s important research include searching for a “vaccine” (a way to prevent people from getting sick) for AIDS, safer tests for breast cancer, and cleaner “biofuels” (gasoline and other fuels made from plants).

Although the Laboratory has made many important scientific advances, it is also surrounded by controversy and problems. For example, there have been many “concerns” (worries) about security and how “top-secret” (information that should not be shared) “data” (information) is “handled” (dealt with; managed) at Los Alamos.


Comprehension Answers

1 - c

2 - a